The "Fayla" Incident
||To get a teen to reveal her identity and show herself to convicted pedophiles on Webcam.
|This incident is a very good example of how pedophiles behave regarding children, and how they bully them into getting what they want.
In September, 2007, a 15-year-old girl using the nickname "Fayla" started posting at GirlChat. She posted about her boyfriend, and her ex boyfriend, who she says is 25 and a sex offender. She posted about her friends, school, music, etc, and she made audio recordings on YouTube with her boyfriend. At first, she was well-received, though the pedophiles were being cautious. However, they encouraged her to continue creating audio on YouTube, which spoke up for "youth rights" and "inter-generational love." A bit later, they started flirting with her, and another teen, who says she is 13.
And then, suddenly, a month later, Nigel Oldfield, a dangerous convicted pedophile, who has a history of harassing sexual assault victims, started a thread called "Me smells P(J)ussy," which accused "Fayla" of being an anti-pedophile who also posts videos on YouTube. He and several others bullied her until she resorted to getting on her Webcam in order to prove who she is. The GirlChat Committee allowed this to continue until the end. Nigel Oldfield has now been banned for two days but not because he harassed and bullied a teenager on their board, but because he called one of the moderators a police officer. Their priorities are clear.
He has since been banned permanently, due to our work. Had this article not been published, he would still be a member of GirlChat.
There is no telling what happened during that video session, but we know one thing: We were able to find out exactly who she was without bullying her into getting on Webcam. We were able to find out her full name (all five of them), her age, her date of birth, her location, her boyfriends and her school.
There is only one way to convey how horridly these people treated this young girl, and how they forced her to show herself on Webcam, and that is via quotes and screen shots. These conversations are a perfect example of how pedophiles manipulate children, and how dangerous they are to children online.
In his first post about this, Nigel Oldfield links to an mp3 file he made which has both Fayla's voice and the anti-pedophile's voice playing at the same time. High technology, no doubt:
Me smells P(J)ussy
Posted by webmanager_critest on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 12:35:36am
Have a listen ...
Same url at link.
Someone has been a naughty pussy.
Though some people on GirlChat thought the whole thing was ridiculous, other pedophiles jump on the bandwagon:
'The principle of 'innocent before proven guilty'
Posted by Hen-Wen on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 04:13:24pm
"The principle of "innocent before proven guilty" doesn't just apply to courts."
Actually... yes it does.
Nobody's talking about putting her in jail. If we had evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, she'd be banned already.
As WMC said, let each individual decide who Fayla is.
As for me, I'm still waiting for her irrefutable proof.
Also, don't give me that BS about "poor Fayla". If she's innocent, then she's been falsely accused *on the internet*. I'm sorry, but deal with it.
One of the moderators tries to dispute Nigel's "evidence," though he does not tell him to stop his campaign of harassment. However, Nigel presents his "credentials" and "expertise," which, since it ends up that "Fayla" IS a teen, is quite absurd. He also makes it clear that he will not be cybersexing with her, since he believes that she is not a teen.
Re: Results (that didn't take long, lol)
Posted by webmanager_critest on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:59:10pm
[Hey man I had a listen to the file you sent. Tell your "brothers" to leave audio work to people who know what they're doing.]
I have just as sophisticated kit as anyone requires and nearly 40 years of working with audio.
[The similiarity is an auditory illusion caused by the voices being overlapped.]
If that is the only thing which was being depended on. We have heard clean versions of both speakers.
[The two people in the recording you sent me are not the same and don't even sound close.]
This is not some fly-by-night. This is PJ. They plan and set up their stings for months and years. They would not make them identical, only the best they could, to be different.
[You said they had the same inflections??? No they don't.]
What I would do, is, I would speak with my own accent (Yorkshire twang) and then speak with a North Yorkshire or even Lancashire register. I would sound as similar as PE/F, but would be as different. For the second, I would then speak in my teaching voice (which is motivational and slighter higher pitched and more excitable).
This would make them just as PE/F appear. I am not sure I would have to do any further audio processing, but I could.
Because PJ are not stupid, and PJ are not, just lazy, I would use different mikes, with a different input stage, knowing, full well, that we are not stupid.
[Those 2 girls are from different regions of the US and even a layman should be able to hear that.]
What regions and based on what difference?
[There are a few syllables that sound close, but that's the best I could find to support the "theory" that they're the same person.]
So, our technical whizzkid has no real negation.
[If that really is the same person, then she's a fucking wicked genious with some damn good equipment.]
Absolutely not, and I have shown why.
[I got 1000s of dollars worth of equipment here and I couldn't make either girl's voice sound like the others.]
[It's especially hard because the 2 girls are using different microphones, and the "anti" has a better mix that's compressed (not good, but still compressed).]
[Your friend (the younger girl) needs to buy a cheap compressor off ebay to stop popping her Ps, or at least get a fucking windscreen for the mic.]
See above, issues that I had noted before this post.
[I could be wrong though.]
[It's hard to tell with the shitty mix that dude put up.]
Triangulation of factors, my audio friend, triangulation.
[Tell the guy who mixed that to put up some clean samples of each voice and I can give you a 100% answer.]
They are readily available on YT but it will not help.
[Mixing the voices up is a shitty parlor trick that makes them sound way more alike than they are.]
Just the teaser, before I released the rest.
So, let the reader decide.
I will not be cybersexing with Fayla for sometime in the far future.
Someone asked if the administrators of GirlChat had a response to all of this, to which they replied:
Not at this time.
Posted by GirlChat Committee on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:58:01am
In reply to Does the Administration have a response to this? posted by Dissident on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:33:12am
But we will, once the rest of the committee hears this evidence, we will discuss it and decide what to do.
For now, we must all remember that it important to not jump to conclusions. Fayla might be a PJ mole, or she might not be. Anyone on this board could be working for PJ. For right now we must simply give her the benefit of the doubt.
Unless she starts violating the GC rules or presents an immediate threat to the board and it's posters, she will continue to have the right to post here.
In the event that it is proven that she is a PJ mole (as was DeepSouth), then we shall simply alert the board and make sure everyone is aware of that fact.
Let this be yet another lesson to all of you about why you should never share any real life, personal information with anyone on this board unless you are willing to risk being outed to the world.
We shall keep you all updated as our investigation proceeds.
Notice that they are saying that no one should ever give out identifying information, but they really don't have anything to say about Fayla, a minor, giving out her information.
"Fayla's" Responses and the Continuing Harassment
This is her first response. They edited her comment about which state she lives in, but it was just one more thing that confirmed our investigation.
Posted by Fayla on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 03:48:19pm
Okay, I’ve had enough reading for my stomach to handle. All I want to say to everyone is as follows:
I’ve understood that I would approached with questions and caution for as long as I’ve read the rules and took them to mind. I never said anything I wasn’t willing to back up and I even suggested questions be taken and I would answer honest. I am 15 years old and something you didn't know, live in [EDIT - no, you should not do this Falya], and I wont give some of you- the sick satisfaction of me leaving out of hurt and sadness to fuel your minds that you where right when you aren't. You’ve come around with ‘evidence’ of another girl talking about perverted comments. I’ve seen and went over her work as well once WC gave the links. If anything the chick should take a look and speak to the girls posting such videos instead of the comments that followed. (Another topic for another time.)
All and all, this is indeed a witch haunt. The accused has little to be said, and the accuser has what he believes is the truth. Its up to the crowd to decide on what they believe is correct. so there is so much error in the way things are being dealt with.
A few points I myself will make VERY strong to the lot of you.
1) I was doing things before this site, my own website and working within my school.
2) I have a boyfriend, I love him and could give a fuck less about anyone else, or having anyone else for that matter.
So I wouldn’t bother with anyone’s personal information. This coming to GC was to met like minded people on the other side, nothing beyond that. But seems even here it's hard being who I really am without the constant dwelling tension in the air.
Your proof is coming WC, Hen-Wen, Just keep in mind that I have a life outside of this place as well.- Though I really HATE to have to prove myself to such paranoia. I will to support my truths and only that- This isn‘t for you as much as it is for me. I’m not scared for I have nothing to be scared about-
Beyond that, for those that know I am innocent I want to say thank you... Glad to know some are out there that aren't so convinced of such things.
As you can see in the screen shot above, many people commented and argued about this. In the midst of it, "Fayla" tries to take up for another poster Nigel is attacking, and this is his response to her:
Re: Quick Note:
Posted by webmanager_critest on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 04:52:17pm
In reply to Re: Quick Note: posted by Fayla on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 04:47:54pm
Mole whinge - where is the vid?
All formats accepted.
Her response to someone asking her not to leave:
Posted by Fayla on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 03:41:09pm
No DK, why would I give them the sick pleasure that comes with that? I might be hurt beyond all reasoning but I'm to angry to let this pass. I've went over it several times and I will have to prove myself. This isn't for them, no... For myself rather because its extremely against who I am to walk away when I'm falsely accused.
PS: Kitten is a nickname, don't like it Kali? Get over it -.-' I'm not here to amuse you- I have what I have and its enough for me. I can't speak for Buttons, but you hear me there.
A response from Hen-Wen:
Ah, good, you're up.
Posted by Hen-Wen on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 03:46:21pm
So let's see the proof!
Don't be hurt "beyond all reasoning". There's no reason to be. I know that teenage girls aren't fragile flowers.
Here, Nigel says that she was "talking dirty." Thing is, she never used any sort of erotic talk. She was simply being a teenager. That is how pedophiles view children.
Re: Does the Administration have a response to thi
Posted by webmanager_critest on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:50:46am
In reply to Re: Does the Administration have a response to thi posted by Fayla on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:48:16am
Kitten, you have been talking dirty since you arrived.
You were just doing it like a kid.
Here, she asks if she has to prove herself:
Posted by Fayla on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:39:38am
In reply to Re: Verdict: **Unquestionably the same person.** posted by Hen-Wen on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:37:19am
Hen-Wen... Do I need to prove myself to be honest? I never lied, I told everything I had to... Time will tell. I am not some 30 year old anti, hell.. I'm not an anti in general.
To which Hen-Wen replies:
Posted by Hen-Wen on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:40:49am
In reply to Re: Verdict: **Unquestionably the same person.** posted by Fayla on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:39:38am
Well, you certainly do *now*...
"Fayla" then responds:
Re: 'Do I need to prove myself to be honest?'
Posted by Fayla on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:49:56am
In reply to 'Do I need to prove myself to be honest?' posted by Hen-Wen on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:40:49am
I... didn't want to do it so forcefully, but I will if I must. Because supporting has always been allot to me... Fine then, but I'll never easily forgive this.
Re: 'Do I need to prove myself to be honest?'
Posted by webmanager_critest on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:55:10am
In reply to Re: 'Do I need to prove myself to be honest?' posted by Fayla on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:49:56am
Make a short face and voice video. Post it to me ...
firstname.lastname@example.org. (With Admin's permission, here, of course ;) )
Or to Admin, here - you must trust them, you being so committed and all.
We know you are nearly six feet and gangly.
In one fell swoop, you prove me wrong and confirm your ID.
Must be worth it - No?
And she finally agrees that she has no choice but to reveal her identity to stop the harassment.
Re: 'Do I need to prove myself to be honest?'
Posted by Fayla on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 02:05:00am
In reply to Re: 'Do I need to prove myself to be honest?' posted by webmanager_critest on Sunday, October 28 2007 at 01:55:10am
Not six feet tall, I'm 4'11 exactly. Besides that... I guess I have no other choice now do I?
After days of harassment and pressure from pedophiles to reveal her identity, she finally did, and this is what Nigel Oldfield had to say about it:
Fayla - The Outcome
Posted by webmanager_critest on Tuesday, October 30 2007 at 12:05:00am
I have cammed with Fayla ... audio and video. I have interrogated her with a series of questions. This was all voluntary from F.
I am well over 95% sure that F lives where she says she does, based on her responses to cold questioning and other information.
I am well over 90% sure that she is younger than 25. I am pretty sure she is younger than 20. She could, indeed, be 15.
Voice and image synch checked out at a high %. However, there were some inconsistent technical problems, at F's end, which may have been shielding such issues, but I do not think so.
I have apologised to Fayla ... she is not a 30 year old, wrinkly witch.
Unfortunately, this does not do anything to negate that she is PE, of course.
What I will now be doing, and I ask readers to assist, is to listen to PE, again, and I request readers to offer their thoughts on locality. This is where my target has always been.
Fayla is a real, young woman (and very prettily short), with the voice which we have heard, living where she says she does. I know PE is good, but she would not be that good, in faking those issues. I cannot be 100% sure, due to the technical problems, but I am damn near.
So, as before, the reader must decide, taking the advice which has been offered along-the-way.
As for those who doubt my work. Suck them lemons.
Over and out.
So, even though he Webcammed with her, he is still not sure; however, we are. Our investigation is solid and has been confirmed many times. And now, pedophiles all over GirlChat know where the girl lives, they have video of her and she is still doubted by them. The issue is being covered by mounds of other threads, and Nigel Oldfield, Hen-Wen and others, are hoping that it will be forgotten.
The GirlChat Committee finally responded to this, but only with a warning. They are absolutely correct about what he did, but did not step in until the damage was already done.
That's enough, no more of this
Posted by BB on Tuesday, October 30 2007 at 08:17:25am
WMC, you have your own website to lead an inquisition. Any further harrassment of GC's users - even for good intentions - will be immediately deleted
Furthermore, now that you've pretty much confirmed that Fayla is indeed a teen girl, it is now clear that you have used Girl Chat as a resource to harrass a minor and bully her into revealing a LOT of personally identifying information to you.
You are officially warned that repeating this behavior will result in a ban. If you have evidence of Antis on this board in the future, you will send it to the GC Committee and WE will do OUR jobs in determining the validity of such evidence. You are not judge, jury, and executioner here, nor is this a community of "mob rule."
Fayla, you have my apologies that this was allowed to continue for so long.
And, finally, her response to "The Outcome:"
Re: Fayla - The Outcome
Posted by Fayla on Tuesday, October 30 2007 at 12:14:51am
In reply to Fayla - The Outcome posted by webmanager_critest on Tuesday, October 30 2007 at 12:05:00am
Like I said. I'm not scared- I never lied so... Eh. I kept to my word, despite some last minute questioning of myself. Glad I kept true to myself. All I can say about this is that I was to quick to agree- Came through though.
Reminder to everyone: Don't promise anything when you're overly pissed off.
So, the outcome was actually that Nigel Oldfield has once against proven that he is a dangerous pedophile and that he is often wrong.
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