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Talk:Oliver D. Smith

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Role in Kiwi Farms deletion[edit]

I've slightly amended the claim that Oliver and Vordrak closed Kiwi Farms by sending child pornography to the employers of Joshua Moon's mother. This allegation is dubious at best and seems to have been invented alongside the rumours Joshua's family was murdered on 8chan (they're obviously total shit). What probably happened is Oliver/Vordrak (and whoever else is in their crony "email group"), sent emails calling Joshua's mother a paedophile, and sent this to her employers.

Based on an news article Vordrak denies sending any emails (although he's certainly lying), but Oliver admits to contacting the employers of Joshua Moon's mom. According to Oliver, he only told them that her pay-check was funding a cyberbully forum. However, if I'm not mistaken there were some blogs put up a few weeks ago with the title "Candy Potter a child molester". I can no longer find them. Kiwi Pyre 12:13, 30 January 2017 (EST)

There's a copy of the letter sent to Josh's mother on this blog. http://candice-potter-candy-potter-pensacola.blogspot.co.uk/ BigBlackDicks 08:10, 19 March 2017 (EDT)

Final statement from Oliver D. Smith to ED freaks and perverts, stop this[edit]

I moved on, and you're wasting your time writing more misinformation about me and trying to defame me. When for example did I send anyone death threats? As in me saying I would actually kill someone, not just they should be killed/receive capital punishment for wicked crimes. A few Kiwi Farms trolls took what I posted out of context. And I never had any involvement with Margaret Pless; she was once in Vordrak's email group, but she never responded. The article also paints the false picture I "harass" people, when I don't. You're mostly talking about quarrels over trivial/silly wiki edits from years ago. No one cares. I spoke to GethN7 on email, he deleted his blog articles on me, and I deleted his. I also deleted Lulzkiller's, Rome Viharo's and Mikemikev's blogs. I have no more further communication with Mikemikev, although I've been told he's now a regular poster on the ED forum; like I said he's a no-lifer. And I presume its him editing my article still (vekimekim is Mikemikev spelt backwards).

I never harassed Joshua Moon's family by emails. Its nothing to do with me, if that even happened. I sent one email to Candy Potter's employer and her being fired had nothing to do with her having an account on Kiwi Farms. Note that the Candy Potter's Kiwi Farms account was created 7 months ago. That's before I even knew her name, or I had made contact with Sam Smith. Ridiculous for Joshua to accuse me of creating a fake account in her name when that account pre-dates my activities.

Regardless Sam Smith informs me he's having a lengthy break. Kiwi Farms "drama" over; all leave us alone. I stuck by my word and removed everything, further I no longer even respond to JuniusThaddeus since he said he wanted some peace too. There was no reason to re-create my article. I already left this place alone, but a Kiwi Farms user (probably Jamias) has decided to still target me when the Kiwi Farms is deleted. Sam has told me he will delete his blog entries on Joshua and remove kiwifarms.wiki, when the dust has settled.ShadowofRome 23:12, 2 February 2017 (EST)

Yeah you sex pests, stop writing mean things about this vengeful troll or he'll get your mothers fired. Vermin rat.png VERMIN  01:05, 3 February 2017 (EST)estate
Hi Oliver. Vekimekim 03:11, 3 February 2017 (EST)
I've removed the death threats allegation because its not sourced. However, as I said in response on my talk page; the article obviously stays. I don't though plan to much further edit it since it logs your Metapedia/Mikemikev, Kiwi Farms and ED involvement, that's all I intended. I have no interest in your shit-posting on wikis. In my opinion the old versions of your article focused far too much on shit no one cares about, i.e. posts from years ago you made on Wikipedia. If its true you've finally moved on, stopped posting on wikis and recognised the error of your ways, then I'm sure in 4 years or something your article will get flushed. Mikemikev is a perpetual shit-poster, so don't bother about him.Kiwi Pyre 12:00, 3 February 2017 (EST)

Kiwi Farms clarification[edit]

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/oliver-d-smith-atlantid-tibetanfoothills-markofkri-many-more.17515/page-157

Quite obviously I'm not Oliver and it would be too much of an act if I was, since he's posted abuse to me here and has criticized the article I wrote on him - see my talk page. JuniusThaddeus decided to delete Oliver's article entirely; I never removed the original information, for example the Stormfront stuff Kiwis are now posting about was never here when I started.

Someone asks why I made the Oliver article more "neutral", well because unlike Kiwi Farms I'm not trying to attack, smear or malign Oliver that he constantly whines about. Case in point is Oliver complained 90% of the old article version was inaccurate and not even his internet history. JuniusThaddeus then made many amendments, noting a large proportion of the account history is not Oliver, but his brothers. http://archive.is/cHRNb This goes back to Wikipedia, Rationalwiki etc shit from years back. I don't see any of it as relevant and Oliver has a valid point about people digging up stuff when he or his brother was as young as 14 to use against him when he's now in his mid or late 20s. I did though post the naked lara croft thing from 2006. Kiwi Pyre 03:59, 19 March 2017 (EDT)

Is there proof that the brother exists and actually helps Oliver? BigBlackDicks 08:16, 19 March 2017 (EDT)

Evidence was apparently posted for 3 or more brothers. JuniusThaddeus changed the article to his brothers, a duo or trio of them. Rome Viharo also calls this the "Smith clan" in his recent articles and no longer claims its a single individual. Its 2, 3 or even 4 brothers. Oliver's Wikipedia archive has at least 3 brothers involved in it. JuniusThaddeus made the mistake of thinking it was all one person, but he's retracted this. According to Oliver or someone else at Kiwi Farms, Oliver is a triplet and he provided proof at least of an identical twin. There may also be a fourth brother if he is a triplet. Who knows. All I do know is Kiwi Farms was completely wrong about it being one guy (Oliver). The fact there's so many of them actually accounts for their countless sock-puppets and very different views on Wikipedia; there's no way its a single guy because their edit patterns and interests are very distinct. Even Mikemikev recognises this.Kiwi Pyre 09:17, 19 March 2017 (EDT)
To answer second question, there's evidence of 1 or 2 brothers helping Oliver against Rome Viharo, but I don't know any involvement of his brothers in Oliver's crusade against Kiwi Farms. Viharo just published a piece that mentions Oliver and his twin. However Viharo is known as an SJW, a massive cry-baby and self-victimizer, he screams "harassment" at everyone, so I wouldn't say his website gives an accurate view of the Smith brothers. Also ED decided to only cover Oliver, not any of his multiple brothers. Oliver can be connected to accounts since his focus on Wikipedia was Greek mythology and history; the other brothers edited different things.Kiwi Pyre 09:48, 19 March 2017 (EDT)
Final point: the mistake Junius made was not sloppy because as he wrote (despite their different interests), the "Smith brothers" (all 3 or 4 of them) engage in the same activities, especially on wikis. For example Oliver was a sysop on Rationalwiki, but so was his twin, and possibly another brother. If they're all editing the same wikis (Wikipedia, Rationalwiki) people will confuse them. When you examine things in more detail they can be distinguished based on their interests as noted. One of the Smith brothers "Forests" (http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Alternative_cosmology&offset=&limit=500&action=history) was obsessed with astronomy/cosmology at Rationalwiki, that doesn't look like Oliver at all.Kiwi Pyre 10:12, 19 March 2017 (EDT)

Request[edit]

Hi,

Is there any chance we can delete this article now?

Kiwi Farms deleted their thread on me like 7-8 months back and all that 'drama' is long dead; I've not heard or spoken to anyone from that forum since and I cut-off all contact with Sam Smith ages back, nor am interested in Kiwi Farms the slightest. JuniusThaddeus and others here agreed to flush the article, and its been repeatedly deleted, but restored. The article I presume was created by a Kiwi farmer since he has the name "Kiwi" (who likely went by email "Kiwi Hunter"), originally hostile to me and Sam, but later said he was a "turn coat" who had turned against Kiwi Farms and tried to be my friend on email; I just ended up blocking him, likely it was a troll and not serious.

ED is meant to be for satire and 'lulz' yet my article reads as defamation and spread falsehoods about me, quotes things I never wrote etc and contains absurd lies. Little in the article is even accurate and almost none of it reads as funny, but as a personal attack.

I have no "beef" with Suarez, Kiwi Farms, GethN7 etc. Like I said the 'drama' that occurred is over, so I request this article be flushed, or at least remove all the lies and nonsense.Temple (talk) 23:02, 24 January 2018 (EST)

Let Oliver be Mikemikev's and Rightpedia's problem for now on:
Oliver hasn't caused trouble here for months. --JuniusThaddeus (talk) 09:27, 25 January 2018 (EST)